You mentioned making a breakfast ADR at Akershus and then having one person go and wait in the line for Anna and Elsa. For that person waiting in line, do you make an ADR that they don't use since they are standing in line? Does one person wait in line for the first 30 minutes (say 8 - 8:30), then switch off for part of the breakfast with another member of your party that ate a quick breakfast? Or, should one person plan on eating very quickly and then getting in the line?

Has this strategy become widespread? Cinderella's Royal Table has traditionally been the most difficult ADR to get, but perhaps breakfast at Akershus has taken that top spot over for the time being. Do you know what the breakfast costs are for a child and adult?

I'm hoping that the lines will have decreased some by the time we visit after Thanksgiving, but I may make a breakfast ADR just in case so we can minimize the wait to see Anna and Elsa.

We got to meet the princesses last month, we went on a thursday, got to Epcot around 9:30 am and went straight to Norway and the queue line was for 4 to 5 hours. There we looked at our options (since it was our first time there) and decided to go and look at all the attractions we could, we went to test track, spaceship earth, got around the world showcase, met the other princesses like Aurora and Belle (There was little to no line) and by the time we ate and looked around more, at around 3:30 pm we got in line to meet Anna and Elsa and the line was half the lenght it was in the morning. We used turns to look individually some villages nearby, and by the time we got in there it was around 5:00 pm almost less than two hours in line, and we used that to rest, I don't know if we got lucky, but I would recommend to first see all you could do in Epcot and get to the last schedule to secure a place (the last hour is 4:20 pm) that way you can use the time to rest, and will be less people in line than in the morning.

We went at end of jan. Got to Epcot before opening

I left the family and went straight to Norway. I got there briskly walking and there was about 50 people in front of me. I don't know how they got there do quick!!! It was cold and raining that day but no one was giving up their place in line.

Finally got into meet them at 1223

THANK YOU!!! We are going a the end of June and since it's my daughters first trip I want to make sure to see an meet everyone we can!!!

I am going with my 11 year old daughter in August and Anna and Elsa are our MUST SEE. Since I have no other adult with me to hold a space in line. What would your recommendations be? We are going on a day that Epcot has morning extra magic hours with alot of flexibility aside from a tour @ 3:45 and Dinner @4:50 in the Land Pavilion. Was not sure if by Mid August their appearance schedule will have changed or not but either way we will be in the gate at 8am but most touring plans are showing that world showcase does not open until 11am. Should we use the morning to get our fast pass+ rides done so we have all afternoon for the girls and world showcase OR flip the order and just make a mad dash for Norway at rope drop and just wait it out.

We were there 2/26. We had NO idea the line would be so long, so we took our time getting back to Norway. We didn't get back there until after lunch and the line at the time was suppose to be 2 hrs 45 mins. We were told at 9a, it was FIVE hrs, so I was glad we didn't rush there straight away. My daughter ( 3 1/2) & I waited in line while hubby & our 2 sons (12 & 10) wondered to other villages & did the kidcot stations, grabbed snacks, etc. My daughter would NEVER have let us leave the line, as this was the ONE thing SHE wanted out of the entire week. So we waited and she did GREAT! The princesses were AH-mazingly sweet & wonderful & kind... with her. We had a good 3-5 minutes total & have THE best video of them both interacting with my little girl. Truly the single most magical moment for her & I from our entire trip. Totally worth the wait (which ended up being only 2 hrs 10 mins after several in front of us left)

If I know Disney like I think I know Disney, this problem will be rectified soon with other meet and greet options. Disney is in the business of making people happy. Elsa and Ana are new and I am sure this overwhelming popularity was somewhat of surprise. But, nothing going on at Disney is without someone working on a happier "Disney" experience. Our trip is booked in November and I have confidence in the Disney Dream Team in providing a solution to this loooong wait.

March 13th. Got in (from ADR at akursha). Got in line at 820am. Was #3. Waited 40 min to do meet and greet.

By the time we left Norway @ 9:45, we were told the wait time was 5:20. Yes, 5 hours and 20 minutes!

Get ADR. It's the only way!

Just saw Anna & Elsa today. All my daughter talked about on our flight to Florida was seeing Anna and Elsa. You can imagine our shock and disappointment when we went to Norway on our Epcot day to get in line for the character greet and be told that the wait was 4 hours...at around noon. After googling these tips, we decided to take a shot at it on our very last day. We were obviously too late to make a breakfast reservation, but we got to the gates of Epcot at 8:00 am and were the second ones in line. By 8:30 you might as well forget about it as there were hundreds of people there. There was one guy beside us in line who was seriously in running gear. The dropped the ropes at 8:45, we were first through the gates and my daughter and I ran like lunatics to Norway.....;picture a scene from Amazing Race....we ended up getting there about 5th or 6th from all "the runners" at the gate.....the cast member even asked us if we were there for the "Elsa and Anna Marathon"....and although there were breakfast goers in line, we managed to get into the first group, but I would say only about the first 15 or 20 to get there from the gates were in the first group. We only had a 45 minute wait (well in addition to the hour we waited at the gates) and it was worth it to see the look on my daughter's face when she met them. They were delightful and charming and really took a lot of time with each kid. By the time we exited the line at 9:45 the wait was already 4 hours. Crazy! Tip: If you buy the Golden Books version of the Frozen book at the Norway shop for $10, Anna and Elsa will sign it and it makes a great souvenir.

was there last week-5 hour wait and they close the line when it gets too long-so if you aren't in the line early...you will be turned away. we got there at 9:30 and were told 5 hours-

When will the FastPass+ be available to schedule?? Our trip is May 3-10th and I just checked and it's not showing up as an option yet for MK.

Just wondering if anyone knows if this will be a separate FP selection, like they have a selection for meet Cinderella, and meet Rapunzel. I just checked and I do not find a selection for Anna and Elsa ? Thanks

If you have an 8 am reservation will the bus get you to the park on time.

I waited 4hours at the end of feb with my 2&3 year old granddaughters. Anna and Elsie were a must see and one of the main reasons we booked the trip. yes it was worth the wait. The princesses were wonderful with both my granddaughters and the girls were thrilled to meet them.

We were there on March 1st- took a cab from our resort, got into the park at 8:30 with plans to dash in at open, and 3 year old declared he had a potty emergency. This left me to navigate the pre-park crowd with my 5 year old in a double stroller, and I got in the wrong line... some scanning issues ahead of us had me sweating bullets. It took forever to get scanned in (ok, maybe 7-10 extra minutes) and I ran in flip flops to Norway. At 9:08, the wait was 2.5 hours long. We saw the princesses at about 11:20. I'll be honest, the Elsa we saw was not as convincing as the ones we saw online, but when my daughter is asked what the best part of our trip was, she says "meeting Anna and Elsa" without fail :)

We saw Elsa and Anna after a 2 and 1/2 going on 3 hour wait. I kept hearing different things from everyone. One lady ahead of me in line at the Be Our Guest Restaurant (worth experiencing for the ambience and magical service) said if we wanted to see them, we should go straight to Norway and expect to wait hours. We stopped at the character spot when we arrived at Epcot (15 min. wait mid morning) and someone there said the same thing. Another cast member there said to wait until later in the afternoon and check the wait time then. This is what we did. We had fastpasses to the big globe at the entrance to Epcot (sorry can't think of its name, which by the way, late in the day has no line), Soarin' and Nemo. Nemo and Spaceship Earth (is that what it is called) do not need fastpasses, but it was kind of neat to walk right in when we got there. These were our choices after Soarin in the first tier. We did Sum of All Thrills and even had lunch before heading to Norway around 4:00. It is true what someone above said. If you get in the line around this tme, you will be among some of the last to see the Princesses. It was a very long (snails pace) wait, partially in the sun (and the sun can be brutal in Florida, even on a coolish day, in late afternoon).I had two girls with me and at one point had them hold my place in line while I went for something cool to drink. The very last leg of the line seemed to me the most tedious.I have a bad low back and it got to me at the end. The Photopass guy tried to rush me through after all that time waiting and I held my ground and tried to get a few extra shots in. Is it just me or is Photopass not as great as they used to be and they get in my way when I use my own camera. Elsa and Anna were not super friendly and according to my twelve year old, they were even a little rough getting the kids to stand in the right places for the shoot. This was our one big wait during our visit, so cannot complain too much. After all, I was free to get out of line if I wanted. I am hard headed though and once I start something I want to finish!! Now I hear here are moving to Princess Hall in Magic Kingdom w/Fastpass available.....oh well, something to talk about!

End of Feb trip to Disney and we knew from the blogs that Elsa and Anna had these massive wait times so we didn't even tell our sons (5 and 2) about this princess option (even though they loved the movie). It was the talk of our Epcot area resort with many dads in line 3-4 hours.

We ended up with Fastpass+ to walk right in and meet Ariel in her grotto instead and that was perfect. One Dad we met at Ariel used all his Fastpass+ for princesses! Smart guy when you compare the 5 hours for Elsa/Anna to the 2 1/2 hours for Space Mountain!

What kinda of wait time will it be if we are staying onsite and there is a extra magic hour where Epcot opens at 8:00am? Is this our best option for beating the long lines? Thanks

Oh darn! I pre-reserved the breakfast at the Norway pavillion in Epcot in July mainly to (hopefully) have a relatively short wait to see Anna and Elsa. Do you think there will be another set of Frozen princesses at both places possibly?

We are going to Akershus on Fri 3/29. 9:15am seating. Last time we went they let us in before all others. Is that not the case anymore. Will there still be a long wait?

I mean Sat 3/29

Went to meet Anna and Elsa today with my two girls. Got to park early, ran to Norway, etc. Got on line by 8:50 and told it was going to be 2 hours 20 minutes. People who got on line at 9 were told 3.5 hours and by 9:15 the wait was five hours. We wound up waiting about 3 hours. The people who manage the lines are nice but WDW does nothing Nothing to make the wait pleasant or interesting. Many saner people shook their heads and declined to wait, but their little ones were so disappointed. Lots of sad children. Not the end of the world, but not what you expect from Disney, either. Guess it takes three months for corporate to approve more wigs and dresses. Big black eye for Disney IMO.

Thank you for the tips! I tried to get to Epcot by 8am, but was delayed by a young daughter getting ready, etc. We arrived by 8:20 and there was a healthy lineup already. I took a chance, standing in a line in no-man's land, close to the entrance being used by the breakfast reservation crowd. At 8:40, they closed the breakfast entrance and moved our group in front of the Mickey readers and I was first in line! Sure enough at rope drop a dozen dads (and some mom joggers) took off at a run to Norway. The odd cast member tried to stop the running, but no-one was going to be the first to stop. I got in line at the meet and greet. 90 seconds later they started the second line around the corner. We were out the other side by 10:10, happy to still have our day in Epcot. I will say, even in the first wave group, there was great grumbling about how much Disney has underestimated the popularity of Frozen. It amazes me how little merchandise there is as well. Disney has really dropped the ball on this.

I went to Disney World last month with some of my friends (I am 19), and we were really hoping to meet Anna and Elsa. We knew the wait times would be long, but we had no idea they were so extreme. In the end, we decided against waiting because we wanted to get the full experience out of the rest of our day. For the young adult/adult crowd like myself and my friends who's sole, crucial priority isn't to see Anna and Elsa, I would for sure suggest just going inside the gift shop and sneaking a peek at them, like she mentioned in the post! We were able to peek around the curtain and snap photos of Anna and Elsa from inside the gift shop, and they were only a few feet away! We got some fantastic photos of them, and we were all so pleased! If you ultimately decided against waiting, definitely visit the gift shop! It will be worth it to at least get a photo of the lovely princesses!

Any idea on how quickly the FastPass+ reservations are being booked up in advance for a day? If you have a FastPass+ reservation, approximately how much total time should be allocated for a visit (i.e. if you have a reservation time starting at 10:30 and you arrive then, would 30 minutes be adequate)? Thanks!

So it's 7 weeks out before my visit and every available FastPass+ for meeting Anna and Elsa is booked. Le sigh. I'm doing strategy #3 to try and get my preschooler to meet them. Wish me luck!

Help me please. Im writting from Central America. I have my trip to disney on july 7th. I read about fast pass to meet anna and elsa in magic kingdom. How can I get a fast pass for this date? Can i get a fast pass without staying in a Disney Hotel.....

We were at Magic Kingdom last week and my 2 granddaughters saw Elsa and Anna. What a thrill! We noticed the wait time for Aurora and princess was 10 minutes. That didn't seem long so we went in line. Low and behold when we were brought into the room it wasTHEM.....Anna and Elsa! My jaw dropped and I'm 63! You should have seen the reaction of my 4 and 8 year old granddaughters......the time frame for this was about 6:30. They were not expected to be there at that time. Take the chance like we did and you too may have a magical Disney experience.

We have Cinderella Castle reservations for 8:10 in June on a day that is not extra magic hours. Any tips for getting on time (as in line before the crowds) to see Anna and Elsa or does the breakfast take a long time? I definitely don't want to short change the breakfast, but that was before the Anna and Elsa obsession of my five year old. It is a shame they don't make an appearance at the castle before their scheduled meet and greets at Fairytale Hall...

Guess what?? Two Fastpasses opened up for 2:25-3:25 the day we will be at Magic Kingdom! Woohoo! Now we can enjoy our breakfast and my five year old and I are guaranteed to see Elsa and Anna! It pays to keep checking! :) :)

Hi Jacky. I had been checking at random times every day. We have five people going, but really just my five year old is crazy about Frozen. So, I just began checking for TWO fastpasses instead of five. I used the My Disney Experience app and clicked on the day we are going to Magic Kingdom(June 20). I kept clicking on select new fastpass, then clicking on my name and the five year old's. Tuesday afternoon around 3:30 CST, I saw that Anna and Elsa were available at a time we had fastpasses for something else. I quickly hit the back button a few times, clicked on change existing fastpasses, and switched just the two of us to Anna and Elsa. Good luck, maybe reduce the number of people needing to see them, and check as often as you can!

Hi Laura,

Thank you so much for your reply! Yes, I've been trying just with myself and my daughter since actually she's the only one that is crazy about Frozen lol (everybody else in my party is an adult) but even with that I still haven't had luck :(

I called Disney and they told me to keep trying because some people might change plans and release their tickets. So I'm just going to keep trying and hopefully get the couple of fast passes I need for my little one!

Thank you so much and enjoy your trip!!! :)

Hi, we've got our ADR for Crystal Palace at 8:05am for our visit to Magic Kingdom this Novb, just wondering if they let you line up early outside PRincess Fairy tale Hall... I've heard that the entrance area to Fantasyland is roped off and cast members do not let you queue early, even if you are already in the park. Was hoping to get a head-start on the Anna and Elsa line (in the event I can't get a FP reservation). Also, do you know if Anna and Elsa will be among the princesses available for meet and greets during Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Party? (Looking at all options for my kiddos, so they can take in as much as possible without spending all our time in the line for A & E!)

Fast Pass Trick! Try checking ONE name when you try to book Anna & Elsa, Then, copy ONE person at a time to the fastpass reservation. The times will be in 10 min increments, but all will be in the reservation window. Good Luck!

I just got back today. My 5 year old was dying to meet them. I tried all week and the wait times ranged from 3 hours to 5.5 hours (seriously). Fastpasses were impossible to get. We even had 3 unlimited use FPs from doing the vacation plan tour and we still couldn't get in to them using those.

Our last day, we got up very early and got close to the front of the line at MK around 8:15am. The cast announced "We know why you are here, and we are telling you right now there will be no running, pushing, yelling, etc:". When 9am rolls around, we will be setting up a barrier and walking you back to the princesses. If you pass the barrier, we will remove you from the park.

Well, we kept our way towards the front, walking at a brisk pace behind the barrier and employees, with strollers of angry parents nipping at my feet. We got there and they already had the 5 hour wait sign up. The employee told me that was only what they had anticipated in the next few minutes. As we approached, we saw the early breakfast group corralled as well. They got to go in right when we did, so booking the breakfast doesn't give you any advantage. A few people did but in front of us, but we were in there by 9:05 and out by 9:35. By the time we got out it was a 330 minute wait.

Bottom line, if you want to see them, get your butt out of bed SUPER early, and get to be one of the first people in line. I'd suggest packing light, ditching the stroller, and walking with your kid on your shoulders to get there because it is packed with people trying to get up front on the walk back behind the castle.

Thank you for the tip about the new time slots for Anna & Elsa! I had originally tried to book the Elsa/Anna character meet for our dates in late June-waking up at midnight each night to do so, with no success. Today I was just playing around on My Disney Experience, and was thrilled to see availability for the princesses !! We were able to get evening FastPasses, and some are still available. I agree with your recommendation to book NOW. They will go quickly.

We tried the early extra magic hours trick and still found a four hour wait by the time we got to the Princess Hall. I had tried to get a Fastpass to no avail. While waiting in line I tried again and scored a 10:30-11:30pm Fastpass for our last night at WDW.

We left the line and went on that last night with our five-year-old granddaughter -- waited 5 minutes. So my advice is to keep trying multiple times a day to get a Fast Paa because sometimes they open up as people's plans change.

It is worth mention that the sisters no longer meet together as a pair as shown in the video above.

Hello Everyone!

I just came back from Disney World a few days ago and I DID get to see Anna and Elsa! My best tip would be to skip the Electrical Parade and fireworks and get in line to see them! Or get in line after the fireworks (if your kids can hold up that long!)! We waited in line about 45 minutes, and honestly it did not feel that long and the wait was not too painful! :) But if you can I would defiantly try your hardest to see them! They were both soooo great! Anna talked a long time and knew exactly what she was talking about! And Elsa's dress and appearance is so perfect to the movie!!! Good luck and have fun! :)

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We just returned from WDW and had great success meeting Elsa and Anna! We stayed for the late EMH when the park was open until 2AM. We met the princesses at 1AM with ZERO wait. They had time to really interact with their guests and that made the meeting even more memorable. On a side note, we had extremely short to no wait times for every ride! Unheard of for the first week in July. If your children are old enough to handle being up this late, I would highly recommend it to anyone!

THANK YOU to those who suggested booking FastPasses under one name at a time. It worked!

We are going to Disney the week of Thanksgiving- 2014. I can reserve fast passes now, but it says that Anna and Elsa at Fairytale Hall is Standby Only. Any advice? Will this open up possibly closer to the date?

Thanks!

My window for FP+ reservations opens soon and I have a quick question. I am traveling with my wife and 2 children (7 & 4). Do I need to make FP+ reservations for all four of us, or just the kids? We will obviously be going through the queue with the kids and taking photos of them, but the kids will be the ones interacting.

For anyone that is planning a future visit, it is extremely important to try making your FastPass+ reservation for meeting Anna and Elsa as soon as your FastPass+ reservation window opens. For those that are resort guests, you may want to plan visiting them near the end of your stay. This is because your window opens at midnight EST 60 days prior to your arrival, but then you can make reservations for your entire stay. When my 60 day window opened at midnight, I tried to make a reservation for our first day but no FastPasses were available. I then looked at a day in the middle of our stay, 65 days in advance. Even that far in advance, I could not book Fastpasses for 5 of us. I was fortunately able to book two in the afternoon for me and my daughter, but I wanted an earlier time if possible. I then was able to book one FastPass for my wife, but the earliest time available was 11:10 am. I tried adding my daughter to my wife's time, but it instead showed the only option being to change my wife's time to the afternoon. The next morning, still 65 days out, I tried to change my wife's time to see if anything earlier was available, but it showed that there were no alternate times available at all. This really surprised me that a full 65 days in advance that there were no available alternate times for just one person. I'm very thankful for the time we were able to reserve, because given the extraordinary popularity of Anna and Elsa, and the difficulty of obtaining a FastPass+ so far in advance, I'm sure there are hundreds (if not thousands) of visitors that will not have the opportunity to have the magic of meeting two beloved characters.

Is there still a standby line for Elsa and Anna? Is it possible to get in line at park opening if we rush right back to Princess Hall?? How early before rope drop would you recommend that we arrive?

We went to Mickey's Not So Scarey Party tonight and around 10:45 pm the wait was posted for 40 minutes. It took us 21 minutes to get back there and see Anna and Elsa. We've been here all week and the line has been a 2 hour wait. We couldn't book a Fast Pass+ beforehand due to unavailability. So my suggestion is go late in the evening on during Mickey's Not So Scarey Party. Worked for us! Plus we got to ride the new 7 Dwarf's ride 3 times!

We were able to meet them in oct during the magic kingdom magic hours around 1am and only had to wait in line around 25 minutes!! :) totally worth it!!

We went in August saw Anna, Elsa, Cinderella and Rapunzel in less then 30 minutes. Went on a Monday morning saw the wait time was 30 minutes jumped in line and then cast member suggested my husband wait in line for Anna and Elsa then we went with no wait for Cinderella and Rapunzel come out and met up with husband in line and were able to see them all within 1/2 hour!

We went there yesterday on Thanksgiving day and waited in line around 8.10 am and finally got to meet them around 9.15am. Anna was so friendly but Elsa on the other hand was not much of a friendly person.How would you describe Elsa's character?As a queen,is she really a reserve type of person?

Just wondering of Elsa and Anna are involved in the Character breakfasts?

Please do not encourage people to hold spots in line. Having a half dozen people push through to meet up with the rest of their group is just downright rude and annoying!

How early does your breakfast reservation have to be to get in the park early? We made one for 9:30 because that was the earliest available and the park opens at 9. Will we be able to get in early to hopefully get in line for Anna and Elsa before we eat?

Hours for Magic Kingdom were just updated and now the park is opening up @ 8am 2/15/-2/16/15, I was planning to get to the park around 7:15, so I could be there to be one of the first ones inside then go right to fairytale hall, to meet Elsa and Anna, is there a special procedure I should be aware of, and is it likely that I'll get in to meet them with a minimal wait time? I will have 4 young children with me. Thanks. The park was originally opening at 9 on these 2 days but now its opening earlier, and the times to meet the sisters has also changed to 8, would the fast passes have reopened to include this change of time or will they just stay the same? This is the one thing that's a must do for my kids.

We just got back from a nine-day stay with the mouse in Florida and found that checking FP+ frequently (every half-hour or so) allowed us to book Anna & Elsa when someone changed their FP+ to another experience. This proves that the system is dynamic and will allow someone else to reserve a FP+ when another guest gives theirs up.

-There's no more pixie dust on my Visa card?!?

Can you still meet Elsa and Anna in Norway at EPCOT? Or are they only in the Magic Kingdom now?

what do you mean by copy to the rest of your group in the reservation process? Planning a trip in oct 2015 for Halloween party and really only my daughter and I need to see them...

I am having the same problem with Anna and Elsa. My 60 day window opened yesterday and was able to get one FP for me at noon, but the other 3 in my party were put in a 6:50PM slot. I have since been checking the site and have been able, with a little patience, to move the rest of my group up in time closer to me bit by bit. Currently, 2 of my party now have times that feature an overlap, such that they can enter together (but are for a time around 5), but no luck on the other single, as the best time I have as of now is still 3 hours after mine. Copying and pasting did not work, as it kept trying to lump everyone to an evening slot and I don't want to hold my last FP hostage, such that I can't book any other rides.

If for some reason, I can't get the other 3 in my party (2 little ones) within my FP window by the time we go, what are the chances we can stop by guest relations and ask to be lumped together in my FP window? If so, can we ask at any park's guest relations desk, or just MK?

I read all these threads and just wanted to add my success story! I only tried booking our fast passes the night before, as we are in Orlando for 2.5 weeks and I wasn't sure what day we'd do Disney. I didn't want to commit to a rainy day! So I booked a fast pass the day before but obviously couldn't get Elsa and Anna. I tried to get just one but no luck. I planned to go before opening and race to the Princess Hall where they are and get in line. And then my two year old woke me up at 330am, so, since I was up, I tried again to an Elsa and Anna FP and got one! Just one, for 5-6pm, when I need two, one for me and one for my 4 year old. So we still went early, and when everyone else went right to get in line, I went to a FP kiosk and asked very, very nicely if the woman could ever help me. I said I was flexible with any time, if she could ever get me two FPs instead of one. Well, she fiddled around, and then actually gave me two FPs to be used ANYTIME! So we went right away, and saw her at about 9:15am. Even when we left, the line was only about an hour, which I certainly would have waited. We went on a Weds morning, mid February, before the holiday. I wish I got that woman's name because she just made our entire day. So, it's worth trying in the middle of the night, and if you get just one, they may give you more, since you all go in at once and it doesn't add any time anyway! Good luck!

Hi,

I'm going next month to disney florida, I am getting up at 5am our time to log on to try and book a fast pass for my husband , me and my 3 year old daughter but none are available, I have managed to book 2 seperate ones for the same day , one at 9-30 pm - 10.30 and the other 10-30 pm - 11-30 pm , obviously for a 3 year old this is far to late but I'm running out of ideas, I keep praying a slot will become available for all 3 of us at a decent time but it's not happening , we're going for our honeymoon and are all so excited , any ideas anyone?